The charger for your m18s will work for the m12, so you aren't adding a charger. aabee, Both tools are designed with a brushless motor which means more power and a longer life. Performance, size and weight is practically indistinguishable on these two units. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless Portable Band Saw (XBP05ZB, tool only) delivers cordless metal cutting power in a compact size. Your previous content has been restored. Stay up to Date on Tool Reviews, Tool News and More. i have an old milwaukee 9inch grinder thats weighs 14.8 lbs. The drill is lightweight and feels great in your hands. M12 fuel combo for 169 at HD, great price thereSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, They are long overdue for a refresh, it's probably coming soon. So here is the deal, a while back we reviewed this Makita combo set which you can find here. One thing I've already noticed with the Fuel is the chuck spins. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit is the perfect – and right now, only – solution for the Pro who insists on carrying both heavy-duty and truly compact cordless tools every day without having to buy into a separate battery platform. Makita XSH04ZB LXt Sub-compact Cordless Circular Saw. Chuck for wobble too! March 21, 2017 in Power Tools. I'm not a big fan of Milwaukee but it's semantics at this point! (with 18V LXT Compact 2.0Ah battery). While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. A smaller, more compact design isn’t always good enough. Â These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. 4 lbs. The hammer function on the m12 Fuel is nice to have but keep in mind that it isn't close to being as good as a m18 hammer functionality...so that difference is relatively moot. It's awesome. The CX200RB combo kit contains the XFD11ZB compact drill/driver and the XDT15ZB impact driver. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. These tool offer power of an 18V, but the size of a 12V tool. The impact has 2 speeds and Cam out mode, with led control. Â The 2Ah batteries provide ampleÂ run time and won’t die out even when fasteningÂ 3″ screws. Â I tried hard to find something I don’t like about them, but even with a low price tag, it’s hard to beat. I'm not planning on purchasing more tools in either platform (I know, famous last words) once I make my decision. I'm slightly leaning Makita to begin with. if so go Milwaukee. Makita XSH04ZB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless 6-1/2" Circular Saw I'll have to purchase a hook. Very nice controls. Just used the sub-compact 18v impact driver today. Speaking of compact, let’s jump into the Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review and see how this saw performs. Speaking of weight, I like the larger base of the 18v compared to the torpedo-style batteries. Â Personally, I think Makita broke the mold with the subcompact platform. I've also got the brushless grinder and the 36v chainsaw. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. The only reason to buy the Milwaukee is practicality, there's a huge m12 lineup. The 18V Sub-Compact Hammer Driver-Drill is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. The drill offers 2 speeds (0-500 & 0-1,700 RPM) and the impact offersÂ (0-1,300/0-3,000 RPM). Sometimes they'll say "we can't say anything yet but keep checking this page", mostly about storage solutions, but most companies don't talk about stuff much until the press release is out. Do you want a hand held planer, sander, or other wood working tools? When you squeeze, the back of grip it feels like it pushes away from your hand. The driver is only 2.8 lbs while the impact is only 2.6 lbs. It's also the cheapest of the trio. but that weight can be a good thing too.I dont know,, i just have a problem with tools that defy gravity. Â If you want compact to go with a 12V. As of this month their last addition/edition are the Sub compact “Hammer drills” — XPH11ZB and DHP483ZB. If you were blindfolded and you picked up these tools, you would assume they were 12V tools, they are that small and lightweight. Charging is super fast. The drill is so lightweight, it's hard to believe. The 1/2-inch drill-driver is 6-3/8-inch long, boasts a mechanical variable 2-speed transmission of 0-500 and 0-1,700 RPM, and weights 2.8 pounds including the 18V battery. I like the feel of the 2753 over the dcf 887 because it feels like its built heavier in the motor and impact mechanism but in reality I'm sure the dcf 887 is probably just as durable and might be less fatiguing over a days work. At least the ones I have. Plus Enter to Win Future Tool Giveaways! One thing that's really awkward about the 12v Fuels are their angled chucks on both the drill and impact. Thank you! This isn't to say the Fuel isn't good (it certainly is), but I knew I made the right decision the minute I sank my first screw. The M12 Fuel hammer drill is actually pretty damn good. Isn't the deal from HD $169 with a free tool or 4.0 battery? This has been on my wish list for some time now. How can you even sleep at night Makita? Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Â The impact has an IPM rating of 0-1,600/0-3,900 IPM which means you can use this for a wide range of fasteners. Haven’t used it myself yet, but all the reviews are stellar and I’m glad I bought it. I also found the grip of the M12 fuel to be a bit small and odd fitting. Once you pick this tool up, you will understand why I feel this is the drill to own. Large selection of 12 volt tools by Milwaukee also. Â Yes, there are other manufacturers who make subcompact tools but trust me, they are not like the Makita subcompact. DeWalt has a 20V MAX tool kit consisting of five tools: a cordless drill, compact driver, flashlight, circular saw, and grinder. I don’t think so. Â At The Home Depot, you can pick this kit up for about $240 which includes the drill, impact, two 2Ah batteries, a charger and a bag. Clear editor. × The XBP05ZB is a sub-compact cutting solution designed for one-handed operation in tight spaces and overhead cutting applications. You can post now and register later. M12 Fuel vs Makita Sub Compact. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6. Editorial Note: Tools in Action receives compensation from third-party advertisers, but that doesnât affect our editors’ opinions. http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. It will be for only these kits. The expansive breadth-of-line of the Makita 18-Volt LXT® Series means an 18-Volt battery from any LXT® tool will power the 18-Volt Sub-Compact Impact Driver. i like to feel the tool in my hand, maufactures are being pressed so hard to make things lighter and smaller, some of the new tools i pick up today are so light, that they feel really cheap, thats not for me, but thats me talking. By I had the Fuel and now have the Makita subcompact. I’m a DIYer but want quality features and long lasting performance. I didn't even put a bit in it; it continues to spin after I release the trigger for a second or two, and this happens on both the 1st and 2nd gear. The 18V sub-compact driver-drill and impact driver are a new category of compact, with the weight and size of lower voltage power tools but with the compatibility, power, and performance of 18V. Both of them are great tools. Their social media team will say nothing about anything that hasn't been formally announced. But it depends on what tools you want. Even mentioned the fact that their Fuel drill/driver in particular is longer than most compact 18v drills these days. That was my only real complaint with the M12 Fuel drill, the sloppy chuck. Your link has been automatically embedded. I'm trying to decide which tool set is best for my woodworking needs and I'm surprised that I can't find many video reviews on the black/white compact combo CT322W. Makita XRH06ZB 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless 11/16" Rotary Hammer, Accepts Sds-Plus Bits, Tool Only 4.7 out of 5 stars 82 $229.00 $ 229 . I like my M12 stuff but the Fuel M12 stuff isn't very compact anymore comparatively. Â If you are looking for a perfect drill and driver that won’t break the bank and are the top of the top, the Makita combo kit should be your choice. The trade-off comes with their available torque and speed. Makita 18v LXT XSH04 6-1/2″ Circular Saw. In addition to having better ergonomics, I've found that the drill is superior (non-spinning chuck, shorter length) and the impact is as well (assist mode, slightly higher torque). T, Well the obvious counter would be: Makita's 18V system is triple the size of Milwaukee's 12V. So here is our Makita Subcompact Review. Â The drill offersÂ 350 in.lbs. The chuck has a nice ratchet feel, doesn't loosen either. Tools in Action (with 18V LXT Compact 2. Especially if you like impact drivers lol. I use some at work, but I usually keep the M18 handy for those particular tasks. Makita Sub-Compact Drill XFD11ZB. Great balance and grip feel. It's awkward. Makita raised the bar with their subcompact line. Both Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Drill-Driver and Impact Driver have dual LED worklights, rubberized soft grip handles, and Makita’s BL brushless motors. Charging is slow.... Makita has made a very nice sub compact set. If you aren’t familiar with them, the sub-compact line is a smaller tool, that packs a powerful punch and still uses their 18V battery. I already have Milwaukee's surge/hammer drill 18v combo and a Fuel circ. Â I just think they are that nice. Any operator can surely make the most of this tool as it spends more time working than sitting on the charger. Makita Subcompact Review – Final Thoughts. Upload or insert images from URL. I friggin' love it. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5,000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. Two-Handed: Makita 18V LXT Brushless Sub-Compact Reciprocating Saw. I wanted sub-compact, but having 2 battery platforms sucks. Balance is a little off, but nothing bad enough to worry about. The 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact Brushless 1/2 in. They both feel great ergonomically, and appear to have similar specs. Yes but the m12 lineup is bigger than the Makita 18v compact line. Makita ; Compact vs Regular Sign in to follow this . trying to decide between the subcompact or M12 gen2 combo kit any advice. Read our Editorial GuidelinesÂ to learn more about our team. The only major flaw is the lack of a hammer option. and length of 7.25 inches, it can deliver as much as 480 in. La Mirada, CA – Makita® has created a new class in cordless tools with the release of 18V LXT® Sub-Compact Brushless. The assist mode is worth the difference in the kits alone, and it operates smoother and quieter. He already has a 18v system so he has access to full sized tools. I picked up the 12v Fuel to give it a trial run, and will do the same with the Makita, and return one or the other (or both) after testing them out a bit. Like I said in the intro, you’re going to see a ton more sub-compact models from Makita this year, like the Sub-Compact LXT Reciprocating Saw I used on the Built In Closet project. Square Drive Impact Wrench Kit is ideal for working in tight spaces and for overhead applications. Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. if you can wait id hold off for a few months to see what else they will bring out. They seem to be clearing out a lot of M12 stuff. Big thank you to everyone who's posted. The feel in the hand is awesome. Â This is where you’re wrong. Keep posting in this thread though, as I'm sure others are likely in the same boat with both promotions going on! Compact vs Regular. Eric is a huge Cubs fans and no, he is not related to Chevy Chase. I bought the set for my dad for $200 from HD, which is the present price. The assist mode is friggin phenomenal for touch up work but will drive large fasteners easily. The 36v is a good selling point on the Makitas. Followers 2. Â This kit has been on the market for a while and we have heard a ton of feedback.Â It’s clear this is a winning tool and we wanted to make sure it gets its respect from the tool world. The Makita is a much bigger line for their 18V tools and I really like how I can use one battery platform with the Makita. I'm going to go with the Makita. The toolkit from Makita comprises of 5 tools with 18V XLT, including a hammer driver drill, impact driver, recipro saw, circular saw, and xenon flashlight. The noise level of the M12 is also crazy high. i dont have a problem at all with my m12 fuel system, i have five tools inside a milwaukee hard case along with four lights, two chargers and a bunch of batteries.cant do that with my 18 volt dewalt system. 0Ah battery, battery and charger sold separately). Makita Sub-Compact Drill / Driver & Impact Driver – Get a Grip on the Ergonomics Comfortable ergo with a compact form-factor make the Makita Sub-Compact tools feel like a natural extension of your hand. I was gonna say... 18v Makita lineup is pretty big too. Lots of power for the size tool. Makita created a new class in cordless with Makita created a new class in cordless with 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact tools. Â When on this setting the tool controls itself to help eliminate cam out and cross threading by driving at low speeds. M12 Fuel impact is quite a bit heavier and the balance is a bit off. The 18V Sub-Compact Impact Driver is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. The chuck is cheap and can loosen easily, but if you get one that is aligned properly, it's going to be fine for most jobs. (with 18-Volt LXT Compact 2.0 Ah battery). But I'm just looking for something compact at the moment, and there isn't anything planned there and their 12v line is weak akin to DeWalt but with marginally better support. They’re not going to crank out the same type of speed and power as most compact 18V drills, but they’re incredibly handy tools to have when you want 12V size without leaving Makita’s 18V battery. I have to agree I still prefer a tool that has a little weight to it. Paste as plain text instead, × Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Great review I just ran across this page. These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. of torque. If Makita wanted to, I think they could have charged a premium and gotten away with it. Torque is great considering the size. Basically comes down to the grip you prefer, the batteries you have and whether the one-handed bit change is worth having 2.5 speeds instead of 4 (come on; the 887 precision mode doesn't really count for much lol). While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. Excited! Never used the Makita compact tools though. Much better than the impact for overall performance. Makita is the obvious choice to me. That new compact gun is awesome! Makita has the advantage with a length that’s nearly 4″ shorter than Skil and close to an inch shorter than DeWalt. Our marketing partners donât review, approve or endorse our editorial content. Its size, which is even smaller than other compact 18V models, makes it incredibly lightweight and compact. Makita CX200RB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit. While he loves remodeling his house, his passion is spending time with his wife and two children. I know this is like comparing apples to oranges but I’m looking for a high quality drill for my home projects. If you were to pick up these tools, I promise you that your first thoughts would be they feel good and they are cool, but won’t perform much work. Â You can pick this kit up at The Home Depot and the kit comes with a drill, impact, two batteries and a charger. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. Â Now I am not saying you’re going to be mixing concrete with the driver, but when you look at the size of these tools, you will be impressed by their output. The most glaring and annoying thing about the Makita impact is that it doesn't have a quick load collet. Skil has the weight advantage, better than 1.5 pounds lighter than Makita. Today, LXT® Compact continues to refine the formula of faster-charging batteries, more power and speed, and a leading power-to-weight ratio. Itâs accurate to the best of our knowledge when posted. The Makita sub-compact tools have been a big hit. Check out the price of the Makita RT0701C compact router. You have entered an incorrect email address! Keep in mind that the Makita Subcompact Hammer Drill is essentially a 12V tool strapped to an 18V battery. × Â A ton of speed and power for most daily applications. Once you get it, let us know what you think. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2 Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8 and 6.4 lbs. Hitachi really seems to be bringing new tools to the market lately. Nice Review. I think this 18v sub-compact lineup has taken the Makita 12v out of the market. There is more plastic and aluminum making it lighter, but not as durable. I tried hard to find something I don’t like … Is this common? Â Amazing for an 18V system. note: made some quick 2x4 cuts and it … Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. I was speaking to a national rep (Canada). Specifications Up to 30,000 RPM of speed A 6.5 amp motor 1.25 horsepower A total weight of 3.9 pounds Pros Fits in the hand well Can be easily transported Highly durable Cons Motor drops when unlocking the base And now let … if you wanted to get one id go makita. We need to go Sub-Compact! Plus the assist mode is actually quite quiet. It's light, compact and super comfortable to use. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. By CATERPILLAR, March 8, 2017 in Makita. So does this spell the end for the 12-volt tool class? Makita drill/driver premium vs compact vs sub-compact. It's one of the many reasons I returned my Kobalt 24v drill; the chuck kept spinning and it wouldn't retain my bit after I let off the trigger. The new 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless includes the most compact and lightest weight tools in the 18V category, giving contractors the size and handling of a 12-volt tool with the performance, power and compatibility of 18 volt. Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. I’ve been looking at some of the smaller drills and after a lot of debate I think 12v will work for me. There new stuff looks great. Dewalt Combo Kit Review – 20V Drill & Impact, Makita Combo Kit Review – Drill Driver and Impact Driver, Milwaukee Drill Driver Revisit Plus Impact Driver. Everything that I own that's teal (or black as is my newest acquisition) is well made, well constructed and exceeds all of my expectations. But it was one of those things where you couldn’t have power and compact. LXT® Compact delivers outstanding performance without the bulkiness and weight of the typical cordless tool offered by competitors. While only clocking in at an average weight of 3.3 lbs. Agree, I like the M12 Fuel tools as well, as they are perfect garage use.